Hello Kevin, Steve, Steve, Jens , Noel

 

This is a really good discussion and it would be great if you would all consider (and any others in the OCP community) to join us and collaborate in the data center facility project on this subject.  We have two workstreams ACS Harmonization and the revision of the ‘Colo Facility Guidelines for the Deployment of OCP Racks’ where we’re intending to create and publish guidelines for heat recovery heat re-use.

 

If you’re not already on the DCF mailing list please join here https://ocp-all.groups.io/g/OCP-DCF

 

Also during our next DCF project call on June 17^th we’ll be discussing the progress of both of these workstreams.

 

 

 

Kind regards,

 

 

Mark Dansie

Subject Matter Expert
Data Centre Facilities 

Open Compute Project (OCP)  

M: +447986 502 896

 

 

From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of Don Mitchell
Sent: 20 May 2020 18:04
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io
Cc: ✉ Conrad Wächter <conrad.waechter@...>
Subject: Re: [OCP-All] Data Center Heat Recovery [EXT]

 

Dr Struckmeier – Quick scan of WP looks very informative.  Appears you have data addressing

• performance/efficiency vs chip temperature
• Energy losses associated with seeking to capture waste energy
• Balancing Energy reuse across a 7x24 usage

 

Would be very interested in

• summary of EMEA (and global) programs incentivizing  energy reuse (by mandate or incentive)
• Recommendations on energy reuse metrics

 

Kind Regards & Keep Safe

 

Don Mitchell
Data Center Division Manager

+1-425-379-8335
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From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jens Struckmeier
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:51 AM
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io
Cc: ✉ Conrad Wächter <conrad.waechter@...>
Subject: Re: [OCP-All] Data Center Heat Recovery [EXT]

 

Don and Steve very good points,

Heat recovery and sustainablity is our focus since I founded Cloud&Heat in 2011. We have 19 locations with servers with heat recovery, most of them for heating purposes of adjacent buildings. The original idea was that this makes particular sense for decentralized edge data centers in urban areas and cities.

We found that the key is to achive high temperatures in water of 60°C (140F) and beyond to get the transistion from waste head to a valuable resource. This requires quite careful heat exchanger design and flow rate control.

However we also found that the optimum temperature for chips and CPU largly varies on the internal structure and semiconductor properties like leakage current vs. low voltage operation.

One of our anchor projects is a datacenter in the heart of the financial district of the city of Frankfurt. We completely refurbished the former European Central Bank data center into a complete water cooled data center providing warm water to the skyscraper heating infrastructure. If you are interested in more technical information and energy savings you might check out our white paper:

https://www.cloudandheat.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/2020_CloudHeat-Whitepaper-Cost-saving-Potential.pdf

Looking forward towards further discussions,

Jens

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Am 20.05.20 um 02:12 schrieb Don Mitchell:

Well, asked for data, now I need someone to translate it for me.

Steve, look forward to your analysis

 

Kind Regards & Keep Safe

 

Don Mitchell
Data Center Division Manager

+1-425-379-8335
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From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of Noel Wideberg
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 3:02 PM
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io
Cc: 'edwardtrice' <edwardtrice@...>
Subject: [OCP-All] Steve Harrington, All] Data Center Heat Recovery [EXT]

 

 

Hello Steve,

Great to be connecting with you. 

I like to introduce you to Ed Trice. He is the brains behind this technology. Ed Trice CEO of Nuclear  Lightning  Enterprises https://nuclearlightning.com/server_06.shtml

builds the fastest Servers and Workstations on the planet.  He can back up this claim against any computer out there.

 

To test the speed yourself you’re going to have to go to www.teamviewer.com and down load the free program.  This is what we use to run the comparative speed and power testing.

   

To see pictures, from the CAD drawing to the final result go to this blog. https://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/796606-PROJECT-LOG-3-stage-Thermosyphon-vastly-outperforms-quadruple-radiators

 

 I am "Doctor Emmett Brown" in this discussion board.

 

We can custom build liquid cooled computer from the ground up. Hyperscale or edge technology. The 8-core Intel i9-9900KS chip is overclocked to 5.2 GHz.  

 

This is the most advanced liquid cooling tech with the 8-core Intel i9-9900KS chip that can be overclocked to 5.2 GHz.  After doing a remote test I saw that the other liquid cooling tech could not compete with his thermosyphon technology.  

 

I don't just provide capital for companies. I started the Cloud9 Capital Consulting so that I can fund the orders from clients of my liquid cooled edge and hyperscale computers we build. It’s actually a marriage of Technology and funding.

 

The pumpless thermosyphon technology is capable of cooling entire 72U server racks running at overclocked speeds 24x7. We are capable of running chips faster and cooler than quad-radiator liquid cooled solutions because we offer 3-stage (air, water, refrigerant vapor) dual phase (liquid refrigerant that vaporizes A custom built liquid cooled computer from the ground up. Hyperscale or edge technology.

 

The 8-core Intel i9-9900KS chip is overclocked to 5.2 GHz. If you need power and speed more than anything else, this is definitely the place to be. The engineer who developed this is one of the brightest stars in the technology universe. If you have any funding needs feel free to reach out to me. I can fund any company that has good revenue and EBITDA

 

Best regards,

Noel Wideberg

CEO/President

Cloud9 Capital Consulting

www.Cloud9CapitalConsulting.com

772-913-1456

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@OCP-All.groups.io [mailto:main@OCP-All.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Harrington
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 5:46 PM
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io
Subject: Re: [OCP-All] Data Center Heat Recovery

 

The NREL data center is very efficient. However, when looking at heat recovery, you have to balance the extra power required at higher CPU temperature with the cost of efficient heat pumps. (a one to one comparison of watts of heat to watts of computer power is not appropriate) A hotter running processor may require 5% more power and a typical heat pump has a COP of 4.

This means that if you run your 100 watt processor hotter so it uses 105 watts to get usable heat, and the heat your are replacing requires 25 watts of power to produce 100 watts of heat, the 20 watt power savings for a 100 watts of heat may not justify the expense of hooking the computer to the heating system.

Also, once you hook up a heat source that you can't control to a heating system, you need to have a backup source of heat.

I don't think it makes sense for San Diego, but it might for a place where heat is expensive and the computers are running at full load all of the time.

Steve

Steve Harrington, Ph.D

Chilldyne, Inc | Founder & CTO | 760.476.3419 x510 | 760.994.5544 Cell

5900 Sea Lion Place, suite 150 Carlsbad CA 92010

http://www.chilldyne.com/liquid-cooling-technology/chilldyne-products-2/

 

 

On 5/19/2020 12:10 PM, Kevin McCoin via groups.io wrote:

Andrew,

NREL has done some really awesome stuff in this space and are currently operating at a 1.025 PUE.  Contact for this facility is Otto VanGeet: https://www.linkedin.com/in/otto-vangeet-pe-828b428/

 

Here’s a live dashboard that includes a depiction of their recovery approach:  https://www.nrel.gov/hpc/cool.html

 

Thanks!

 

Kevin L. McCoin

Distinguished Architect, Systems Engineering

Walmart Technology

Enterprise Critical Infrastructure Services
Phone: 479-277-2135  fax: 479-277-4244
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From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Witteck
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 1:31 PM
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io
Subject: EXT: Re: [OCP-All] Data Center Heat Recovery

 

Thank you Rolf,

This is very much appreciated.

Cheers,

Andrew Witteck | Specialty Markets Manager

Armstrong International

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c  (772) 473-3055
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From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of rolf.brink@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 2:29 PM
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io; OCP-All@groups.io
Subject: Re: [OCP-All] Data Center Heat Recovery

 

Hi Andrew,

 

Yes, this is currently a topic in the ACS Harmonization project. Best bet is to get in touch with the DCF group. ACS and DCF are working together on topics like this. I will put you in touch directly as well.

 

Cheers,

Rolf Brink

ACS Immersion

 

From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of Andrew Witteck
Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:14
To: main@OCP-All.groups.io; OCP-All@groups.io
Subject: [OCP-All] Data Center Heat Recovery

 

Hi

Hesham, I am not aware of cellular in data centers. I am sorry.

I am interested to find out if there is any work in OCP projects that is related to using Air-cooled data center or liquid cooled data center hall expelled heat for thermal utilities in surrounding buildings? Also if there is any direct/indirect evaporative media work being done as well.

Thanks,

Andrew

 

 

From: main@OCP-All.groups.io <main@OCP-All.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hesham
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:41 AM
To: OCP-All@groups.io
Subject: [OCP-All] Cellular Data Center

 

Hi

I am interested to find out if there is any work in OCP projects that is related to using Celluar in the Data Center.

Thanks

Hesham

 

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